February 19, 2008

“I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.” Gandhi

Filed under: The church saga — admin @ 7:48 pm

The above quote is one by Mahatma Gandhi that I have recently run across.  It somehow resonated with me, so much so that I bought the bumper sticker!  Now,  I am not suggesting that we as Christians are expected to try to be just like Jesus.  No one can live under such a weight of pressure and guilt.  Neither am I defending Gandhi for his religious beliefs.  But at the same time, we cannot simply dismiss someone with such an enormous impact for good .  If we have integrity, we have to be willing to think hard about what he said about Christians. Phillip Yancey helped me see this in his book The Soul Survivor. 

Listen to a story he retells in that book:

Gandhi and Reverend Andrews, a Presbyterian missionary, were walking together in South Africa.  “The two suddenly find their way blocked by young thugs.  Reverend Andrews takes one look at the menacing gangsters and decides to run for it.  Gandhi stops him.  ‘Doesn’t the New Testament say if an enemy strikes you on the right cheek you should offer him the left?’  Andrews mumbles that he thought the phrase was used metaphorically.  ‘I’m not so sure,’ Gandhi replies.  ‘I suspect he meant you must show courage – be willing to take a blow, several blows, to show you will not strike back nor will you be turned aside.  And when you do that it calls on something in human nature, something that makes his hatred decrease and his respect increase.  I think Christ grasped that and I have seen it work.’”

This active nonviolence that Gandhi preached and practiced brought freedom to the millions of Indians previoiusly called Untouchables.  He began by giving them a new name.  Rather than Untouchables, he called them Harijans, or Children of God.  He called them brothers and stayed in their homes as much as possible.  This was radical because others would not be seen with them and would not dare touch them much less talk to them and fellowship with them.  One hundred million people in India now call themselves by a blessing rather than a curse because of the courage of this man.  He believed in the dignity of each person, women, lepers, lower caste members, children.  The Scriptures make clear that the poor and needy are close to the heart of God, and they were close to Gandhi’s heart as well.  Whatever you think about his religious beliefs, and no matter how much you or I may disagree with his beloved religion of hinduism, he shows us a beautiful picture in a human life lived in humility, peace, and courageous love.

Okay, so why am I writing about Gandhi and asking us to contemplate what he said about “our Christ and our Christians?”

Because I am grieved that we are not showing forth the heart of Christ.  I am grieved that someone like Gandhi could like Christ but not see his likeness in those called by his name.  I am grieved that when Jesus walked this earth, sinners flocked to him as a safe place, and while they still do so today, often the church is not that place at all.  I am grieved that this quote from Gandhi too often reflects the true sentiments of multitudes of people today.

I know there are no perfect churches.  My dad often jokes that if you find a perfect church, don’t let him join it because it won’t be perfect anymore!   (I’m right there with you, dad.)  So I’m not talking about trying harder to be and act and “just do” what Jesus did.

But I am talking about humbling ourselves before him and asking him to search our hearts,  and to show us ourselves and the real Jesus with spiritual eyes.  I am also talking about asking him to make us attractive to “sinners”, for us to be people who “join the rest of the human race.”  To become one follower of Christ that gives someone somewhere a taste of the heart of God.

Rather than try harder to be like Christ, we need the real Christ to show himself in our lives, and that begins with brokenness.   Letting others see the real us.  Letting him shine through the broken places.  Stopping the show of perfection, because it repells those outside the church. (and a lot of those within the church as well!)  Where did we get the idea that we have to “set a good example” anyway?  That usually ends in superficiality at best and  hypocrisy at worst.  Let us admit that we fall short, that yes, the church has failed, that we often don’t show his love.  This type of honesty may be just what it takes to begin to draw others to the perfection of Christ, through our admission of our own imperfection.

In Blue Like Jazz,  Donald Miller tells a story of a few Christian friends building a “confessional booth” on their college campus on the biggest party night of the year.  As people would stroll by, they would begin to talk to them, and instead of encouraging the “sinners” and “party-ers” to confess their sins, the Christians would confess their own failings and apologize to them for the actions of the church over history and even in current events.  It was an interesting and powerful twist, and they made a few friends that night.

So, if anyone is still reading who likes the idea of Christ but can’t stand the Christians you have met or the ones you’ve heard about, please hear my heartfelt apology.  Many claim the name of Christ but do not really follow him.  And those of us who really know him, we screw up all the time in showing his love and acceptance and forgiveness. 

But he is “gentle and humble in heart.”  And if you are weary, like I am, hear his invitation,  “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and you will find rest for your souls.”

This is the only hope I have.  Life has beat me up too much to still believe that I can get my act together and that everyone else should too.   If Christ doesn’t offer hope for real people in the real world with real problems, we should all chuck him and just try to have a good time.

But he does. 

He has done so for me.  Again and again.  And I still need him as much as the first day I met him.  And though I forget him, run from him, rage at him at times, question his plans, and fail to love like he does, he is ALWAYS a safe haven of rest to my weary soul.   And even if you don’t like the Christians you know or know of, I think you would really like this Christ!

I would love to hear your comments, agree or not.

124 Comments »

  1. If I ever see that sticker, I’m buying it. Or maybe I’ll make something with that quote on it. I’ve heard it before once or twice, thanks for reminding me of it!

    Comment by talia — February 23, 2008 @ 10:33 pm

  2. I found the bumper sticker online at “Wear a big Sticker.com”
    smiles

    Comment by mongoosemom — February 24, 2008 @ 9:56 am

  3. I’m not sure where your quote from Yancy ends…
    I’ve heard that quote/story from Gandhi before and it saddens me. It also maddens me because I know many Christians who are living love to the unlovable but their stories aren’t paraded around the world. That’s not what the gospel is about – parading it’s humility for the world to see. Brothers and sisters are visiting the wounded, healing the broken, feeding the hungry, etc. everywhere and everyday. Their stories are unwritten and untold.
    Yeah, the hypocrites are out there too and their stories tend to be broadcast more than the quiet ones. But aren’t we all hypocrites anyway and Christ loves us anyway and uses us anyway?

    Comment by Barb — February 26, 2008 @ 12:23 pm

  4. Barb,
    The quote ends after that paragraph with double quotes “I think Christ grasped this, and I have seen it work.”
    The information after that is not directly quoted from Yancy, but some of it did come from the same book.
    And you’re right – there are many untold stories of true believers loving in humility!
    I’m just writing from where I am, deep in the Bible belt, and wanting us to think hard.

    Comment by mongoosemom — February 26, 2008 @ 1:42 pm

  5. Thank you for this. I am bookmarking your site. This was Christ speaking through you.

    Strangely enough, it came to me through a secular list, a friend who was discussing pacifism with me. I quoted the Ghandi bumper sticker, which I had seen recently.

    Thank you….this “sermon” should be heard everywhere.
    In Him,
    doorkeeper

    Comment by doorkeeper — December 14, 2008 @ 1:07 pm

  6. I heard this quote on a sermon today on a radio broadcast at 10:30ct from an Episcopal church and wanted to know the source of the quote, googled and was directed to you…thanks for sharing your thoughts… I will definitely put this site in my favorites…what a blessing

    Comment by Linda — January 18, 2009 @ 9:13 am

  7. Linda,
    That is SO cool! I’m glad you found me.
    Cheerios!

    Comment by admin — January 18, 2009 @ 9:35 pm

  8. I stumbled across your site while looking for the exact wording of this quote. Your post was beautifully written and contained such a great message.

    I’ve read through a few of your other posts and I’m now very glad that I came across this site. I really enjoy what you have to say. :)

    Comment by Kim — March 23, 2009 @ 10:16 am

  9. [...] “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.” -Ghandi [...]

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  10. Kimmie,
    I’m glad you came by! Hope to hear more from you.
    Mongoosemom

    Comment by admin — March 23, 2009 @ 6:15 pm

  11. Like many other that have posted, I happened upon this post while searching for the exact wording of the Gandhi quote. I appreciate the truthfulness and candor in your post. Many of us would be better served by realizing the hypocrisy of our ways. I’m fond of the Gandhi quote because it is a reminder to the millions of Christians, that just claiming Christianity is not the end.

    Comment by Kyle — May 6, 2009 @ 1:05 am

  12. Wow. This was really a blessing to me, as I have been struggling with stuff in my church. I have to remember that it is about Christ, not the church, and not whether I like/approve of certain Christians. I just have to do my best to reflect Christ in my life.

    Thanks so much for this.

    Comment by Donna — June 1, 2009 @ 6:22 am

  13. Thank you. I have been feeling this way for so long and I saw this bumper sticker on a punk rock girl’s car one day and I thought “That is awesome. I AM a Christian and I feel the same way!” I looked it up later and shared it with my sister, who has a real distaste for the church and what she knows about Jesus, which unfortunately is dyfunstional and wrong due to the church teachings she has had. I wanted to help her be more informed, so I shared it and she seemed to open up a little more to accepting to hear my point of view. I just sent her the link to your page here too. I hope it speaks to her as it has to me. Thank you and God bless.

    Comment by Geneveive — June 25, 2009 @ 3:24 pm

  14. Dear Geneveive,
    I’m so glad you found the site and article. Jesus is like no man. He is 100% compassion and kindness. I pray your sister will find that to be true, that he will find her! It is tragic when the “church” abuses and misleads the people it is supposed to love.
    Mongoosemom

    Comment by admin — June 26, 2009 @ 12:18 pm

  15. Thanks again. My sister read the above and said “I love it. Beautiful and true.” I am in the midst of reading this book, “The Irrestistible Revolution -living as an ordinary radical” by Shane Claiborne. I wondered if you have read it and what you thought of it. And if you have not, I wanted to refer it to you. Have a terrific day!

    Comment by Geneveive — July 1, 2009 @ 11:03 am

  16. Thanks for the book recommendation. I have not read this one, but I’ve read one on the same theme,simply called “Revolution” by George Barna. I enjoyed it very much. I’ll check out the one you mentioned.
    Mongoosemom

    Comment by admin — July 7, 2009 @ 3:12 am

  17. Gog IS Love. If we are following Christ, then we will be in this love, transformed, melted, integrated, surrounded in it. Whatever we are full of we will spill over when we are bumped. What happens when you are bumped, what comes out? Love? Or nasty stuff. It is a challenge for me too, don’t worry!
    My point is this. A person / church / denomination can call themselves ‘christian, but until they are bumped you will not know. I know.

    Comment by M — July 15, 2009 @ 2:07 am

  18. Oops. That should have been God IS Love…
    By the way. I like your page a lot. Well done. M

    Comment by M — July 15, 2009 @ 2:08 am

  19. Like others noted before me I found your site while researching the Ghandi quote. Your opening paragraph in this section peaked my interest so I continued to read the entire article. I sense you heart is in the right place but I do see some problems with the theology. God definitely expects us to strive (with assistance from the Holy Spirit) to be like Jesus. Roman’s 8:29 says: “For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he (Jesus) might be the firstborn among many brothers.” In Matthew 7:24 Jesus himself says: “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. Then in Matthew 7:26 “But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand.” In John 14:23-24 Jesus said: “If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.”

    The confusion I see in your first paragraph comes from a misunderstanding of Jesus vs Law (i.e 10 Commandments, other moral laws in the 1st five books of the Bible, Jesus teachings) and righteousness vs self righteousness. The New Testament is very clear that we can not find righteousness by obedience to the law. However, Jesus emphatically states in Matthew 7:17-20 that the Law stills stands. The difference is that those who try and find righteousness by obedience to the law either become self righteous or are crushed under its weight (as you stated). Those who have surrendered their lives to the Savior strive to obey out of love for the Savior knowing that if they stumble Christ will be their pick them up. Now the law has two purposes, both equal in importance. One purpose is that it demonstrates the proper way to live our lives with others (call it God knows best). The other purpose is to point out how far we are from that way of living (like a mirror showing us how dirty our face is) and pointing out that we are sinners in need of a Savior. As Paul says in Romans 3:20, “…through the law we become conscious of sin.” Jesus cannot save us until we recognize our sin problem.

    Therefore, we are to obey the law no matter how imperfect we maybe at it. As C.S. Lewis stated in his book Mere Christianity: “And, in yet another sense, handing everything over to Christ does not, of course, mean that you stop trying. To trust Him means, of course, trying to do all that He says. There would be no sense in saying you trusted a person if you would not takes his advice. Thus if you have really handed yourself over to Him, it must follow that you are trying to obey Him. But trying in a new way, a less worried way. Not doing these things in order to be saved, but because He has begun to save you already. Not hoping to get to heaven as a reward for your actions, but inevitably wanting to act a certain way because a first faint gleam of Heaven in already inside you.”

    The reason many so-called Christian don’t act like the “your Jesus” Ghandi addresses is because they have never recognized their sin problem so Jesus has not yet become their Savior, just a figure head. They put their faith in church, not in Christ. Hence, no need for obedience.

    One last point: To be obedient to the Law and Jesus’ teaching means you need to know them. That requires Bible study. Ignorance in the eyes of God is not bliss. God Bless.

    Comment by nofear — August 22, 2009 @ 4:33 pm

  20. I just posted that quote on my facebook site. My wife has a cousin who is a right wing christian fundamentalist. He can quote the bible and complain about our president regarding the health care issue. What he doesn’t do, is act like Christ. He passes on the lies and hatred towards Obama in the name of Christians.

    We posted this quote and his response was, “so now you are quoting Gandhi” Yes we are. And it fits so well.

    Comment by Lloyd — September 10, 2009 @ 10:23 am

  21. I like your Ghandi, but I do not like your Hindus. Your Hindus are so unlike your Ghandi.

    Comment by johnny — October 18, 2009 @ 7:26 pm

  22. I was looking to share a bumpersticker I have with some folks at http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=190116729318&ref=mf (Americans agains national religion) and I found your blog and read it. I wish you weren’t such a minority in Christiandom, but you are encouraging and refreshing and I thank you for spreading the word!

    Comment by Reni — November 9, 2009 @ 5:23 pm

  23. Fantastic ! I couldn’t have said it better myself!!
    I find “Christians” especially American Evangelical / fundamentalist ones despicable.The embodiment of hypocrisy.”Christianity” as practiced and preached in the western world is only a religion of the mind and will power.There is no true spirituality or “spirit” in it.Jesus wouldn’t recognize it.Follow Christ, not a preacher, a book or a set of rules/ /laws.

    Comment by Tyler Durden — December 23, 2009 @ 9:38 am

  24. Thank you for your post, it blessed my soul. I found you while searching the exact quote as well. Then I decided to make Harijan my screen name for the many forums and sites I post on. I am a long time believer but for a lot of reasons I have been struggling with calling myself a Christian for awhile, plus I can’t be a Christian in America because I voted for Obama ;)!! So Harijan it is. Anyway thanks again for your post!! I will book mark your site and share it with my friends both believers and non.

    To Johnny, that too is an awesome quote and bumper sticker, I would buy them both.

    Comment by Harijan — December 25, 2009 @ 11:45 am

  25. I was actually looking for the Ghandi quote after my Pastor referenced the quote in one of our series. It stuck out to me so well but I wanted to quote in directly. Clicked on your site and read and from the time I started to read tears flowed. I saw that someone said that it was Christ speaking through you and I believe that. I have been very frustrated all week and have not figured out why until I read this. I am FED up with how we as a whole have taken GOD’s loving, accepting, merciful,non-judgemental plan and turn it upside down. I believe that sometimes even our leaders have failed us and that’s why I believe that GOD is going to call a new generation that SHALL obey him and allow them to help turn this thing around. Sitting here for thirty minutes crying, after reading your page, I told GOD that I will go. To annoint me and send me as one of the disciples that will help turn this thing around. That’s what we need. Some TRUE believers and REAL people who is ready and willing to go on a REAL journey. I thank GOD for you, and for speaking through you.

    Comment by Lorenza — January 20, 2010 @ 10:05 am

  26. Bless you, bless you, bless you, Lorenza and all of you! This is God’s work, his thing, and he will do it. Isn’t it grand to be a part of it?
    mongoosemom

    Comment by admin — January 24, 2010 @ 5:18 am

  27. I am Catholic and struggle with my fellow Christians about this issue. Too often we forget the love of Christ was what he wanted us to extend to others, not persecution, not judgment, not names or labels but love, acceptance and inclusion. I love Christ, too often I find myself not liking other Christians, because they forget to be Christlike, to be of service of our fellow man and to see God in ourselves and see God in others no matter who we believe they are. Love Christ, love ourselves and others as ourselves. There is no unlovable.

    Comment by Paolo — January 27, 2010 @ 12:48 pm

  28. This is awesome. Thank you for your wisdom and encouragement.

    Comment by Nick — February 9, 2010 @ 4:53 pm

  29. “There are no accidents only Divine Appointments.” I too was searching for the Gandhi quote and as God would have it came across your site. I am an Anglican Priest. I work full time as a Hospice Chaplain. However, I am also a shepherd who has been bitten by the sheep so many times I can not venture anywhere near a church without becoming physically ill. Like Gandhi “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.” But some things you said in your article touched me deeply and I just wanted to say thank you. Maybe some day I will be able to find a community of fellow believers, but for now I can’t even think about going to church without getting a knot in my stomach. Perhaps this is why Jesus preferred the company of sinners rather than the so called “righteous”, they’re sickening. Thank you again and please pray for me, a sinner.

    Comment by David+ — February 28, 2010 @ 7:29 am

  30. Dear David,
    Thank you for your comment. I know the pain you are talking about, and I am so sorry. I will pray for you,from one sinner to another. God bless you deeply.
    Mongoosemom

    Comment by admin — March 1, 2010 @ 5:21 am

  31. Amazing my brother!! God has truly revealed this to you!!

    Comment by Joseph Garza — March 20, 2010 @ 8:27 pm

  32. Here, Here! “Perfect”! Thanks!

    Comment by Ivy Garmon — April 24, 2010 @ 7:50 pm

  33. Amen to Every Word! May I reblog this?

    Comment by Glenda Bixler — May 14, 2010 @ 9:19 am

  34. Go for it, Glenda! Just link to me.
    Thanks!!

    Comment by admin — May 15, 2010 @ 5:46 am

  35. I think if you are allowing someone who calls themself a Christian to deter you from serving Christ, then you really aren’t following Christ. If Christ is truly living within you, nothing anyone says or does will be able to sway you. Christ said that you should know the truth and the truth will set you free. To know the truth you have to study and spend time with Christ so that He can take precedence in your life. What someone else says or does shouldn’t matter to you if you know Christ is living inside of you.

    Comment by Leslie — June 2, 2010 @ 8:24 am

  36. Hmmmmmm, but I am following Christ, and he is so so real to me. I’m not letting others deter me from following Christ, but part of following Christ is recognizing when others who say they are, are not and speaking up so that others can know the truth and be set free!

    Comment by admin — June 2, 2010 @ 3:17 pm

  37. Thank you Mongoose and thank you David.
    (Comment by David+ — February 28, 2010 @ 7:29 am)

    I, too, like David was searching for the Gandhi quote and have just found your page Mongoose Mom.
    It is amazing even though we have been hurt by such people it is with the Love of Christ that we have survived. That is when we realise how strong our faith is.
    Glad I am not a counterfeit Christian!

    Comment by Pauline. — June 26, 2010 @ 5:30 am

  38. This is exactly how I feel about Christians and Christianity in general. I like Christ and the message of the gospel. But I don’t think I can be a Christian with all the Christians in the world.

    Comment by dave — July 22, 2010 @ 7:03 pm

  39. Thank you MongooseMom for this wonderful post. It’s obvious that you have a real conscious contact with Christ. The only thing I would change is the term brokenness to humanness. I don’t think Christ sees us as broken but as beautiful children of God that need our knees to be kissed when we fall down and skin them, not condemed for falling. Only the church, and those pious christians Ghandi saw, scold us for being less than perfect. It’s through your authentic humanness that Christ was able to reach out and touch my heart, and from what I read in these comments many others.

    Comment by Marty — August 24, 2010 @ 7:55 am

  40. Marty,
    That is perfect! The word “humanness” captures what I am trying to say so much better. The brokenness word can so easily be misunderstood! THANK YOU for that thought.
    I love how the real Jesus is so good through and through. It surprises us when we encounter him after so much religious hogwash. Thanks for writing!

    Comment by admin — August 24, 2010 @ 1:03 pm

  41. So blessed to have found your site. I am broken and in need of a healer. Jesus is near to the broken hearted and there is no better place to be than in his arms.
    I have done things to break my own spirit and have had it broken by others. Jesus is the Repairer of all broken in me. When all has seemed hopeless, beyond restoration, he has proven himself by doing the impossible. He is my one Great Love, my dancing partner, playmate, physician, comforter, joy.
    I am not in love with or restored by a church, doctrine/theology, or philosophy, but by a Person. His name is Jesus.

    Comment by Lore — September 5, 2010 @ 8:14 am

  42. Lore,
    A-Men, Sis-tah!
    I’m so sorry for all the hurt you are feeling.
    Hugs to you today!

    Dave,
    Make your own decision. I pray no one will deter you from finding the Truth. He is a person. Jesus.

    Comment by admin — September 5, 2010 @ 9:05 am

  43. I just saw this and loved your explanation/feelings about the Gandhi quote. I am an atheist. There have been many times when I absolutely agreed with Gandhi, but not in your case. I have been maligned and teased and threatened and treated horribly, thought to be “of the devil”, and told I have NO worth in this country, at all, most of my life. I have never believed in any religion. I wasn’t raised that way although my parents didn’t believe. I was born an atheist. I’ve always known that there is no such thing as the ‘supernatural’ of which god and the risen Jesus are a part of, in my opinion. But there are so many wonderful Christians out there. And so many that don’t deserve the title. You, I’m happy to say, appear to belong in the former. I am glad I stumbled across your site. I want to thank you for being who you are. Yours, Nadine Alldridge

    Comment by Nadine Alldridge — September 19, 2010 @ 3:57 pm

  44. Nadine,
    I am very pleased to make your acquaintance! Thank you also for being who you are. I am glad you stopped by the sight and that you took time to comment. I welcome your thoughts on anything here, though I must say I am not blogging new stuff too much these days but hope to get back to it.
    I think Gandhi was talking about the historical person of Jesus of Nazareth, rather than focusing on the spiritual implications or how people see him regarding religion.
    The real human Jesus who lived by that name would be horrified and saddened by the mistreatment you have endured. He was all love and especially enjoyed being friends with those others scorned and cast out. Maybe that is one reason I find him so intriguing. Even if you do not subscribe to the supernatural claims of his life, you would find his person absolutely intriguing.
    The best to you!
    Yours,
    Mongoosemom

    Comment by admin — September 19, 2010 @ 6:38 pm

  45. i love the quote…. i have made up the term “hypachristian” and am a “recovering baptist” i love your article and apology! went church shopping…. found a home a spiritual center where they treat people like Christ would have! they dont try and “pray the gay away” (fyi im not gay) and try and do fear based promotion for membership instead of life based attraction! im just saying! HUGS AND BLESSINGS FROM ME TO YOU! Namaste!

    Comment by kimmy — October 2, 2010 @ 8:42 am

  46. I have been going through the God channels recently and have been left cold and angry at the obvious false teachings. Is it any wonder people are rejecting christ? The ‘church’ is as asleep and dumbed down so as not to lose the ‘sheeple’ sorry congregation and I’ve been feeling for quite sometime, to quote Bilbo Bagins, streached and spread, like to little butter on a slice of bread. It is as if the sermon on the mount is deliberately ignored and everything is ok, when infact we are letting our leaders create hell on earth with their constant lies and wars. Ghandi’s quote has brought me to tears. I know that there are true Christians out there, but I do not think they have any need to go to a building on sunday to worship (as if sunday is the sabbath!)I also know God saw Ghandi’s heart, and I want be where human beings like he is when I die.

    Comment by matt — November 6, 2010 @ 11:29 am

  47. Wow! This is truly amazing! I love this. I truly believe God was speaking through you. To be a christian you have to do something. You can’t just go to chruch every sunday, count your blessings, or listen to christian music to be christian. You have to walk with christ not try to be like him just listen to hime thansk!

    Comment by Christina — November 13, 2010 @ 8:20 am

  48. If you’re still reading replies, thank you for this entry. I too was Googling this quote. I have been so hurt by so-called Christians and self-serving “pastors” that I have become agnostic, if not an outright atheist. I regret having fallen for male-centric “doctrines” that subjugated me as a woman and for the idea that souls-in-heaven mattered more than people-on-earth. I regret having traded real relationships for fake ones, for subjugating my dreams to systems designed to promote those in authority. I cringe to look back at some of my own life choices. Knowing that a great majority of my bad decisions were spurred on or rooted in these “church teachings” is a horror that I am still trying to unravel. The betrayals and trauma are so severe, I’m not sure if I can even acquiesce to the first part of Ghandi’s quote – after all, where is Christ in the affairs of these men? where is any “God” these days? – but I can certainly, and sadly, relate to the latter part of his sentiment. There is an old saying: “what you do is speaking so loudly that I cannot hear what you say”. But your words came through as honest and sincere. So from one imperfect human to another – thanks for sharing. I wish you peace.

    Comment by C — November 14, 2010 @ 8:50 am

  49. That quote perfectly describes the christians I’ve come in contact with. They’re more interested in one -up-man-ship than being christian that they’re hypocrisy doesn’t seem to bother them at all, other than being angry and unforgiving. Unlike me as I have a conscience. Apologies for venting.

    Comment by Frank — January 5, 2011 @ 4:08 am

  50. Frank: you completely missed the point which was unconditional love toward one another instead you use it to say yeah!!! Christians suck i have met more socalled Christians than real but the world is filled with the real, though Ghandi was a good man he and you are in prejudice error when you lump all of Christianity together and say that all Christians are unlikable and hypocrites i personally know many who would have given Gandhi a good reason to be ashamed of his blanket statement and of all the things i love about Gandhi this statement was one of his most ignorant and beneath his understanding of humanity and of kindness and unconditional love, and of those who are indeed Christ like. Faith

    Comment by Faith — January 14, 2011 @ 8:34 am

  51. This is how I see it; you don’t have to be a follower of Christ to be his follower. That may seem contradictory but I don’t believe it is. Just like Gandhi he was a Hindu but he had the love of Christ in his heart, Mother Teresa was a catholic Christian she followed Christ. One was a Hindu one was a Christian, they both had their talents, neither of them hid their talents, they gave freely of themselves of Gods gifts. Mother said if you’re a Hindu be a good Hindu if you’re a Muslim be a good Muslim if you’re a Buddhist be a good Buddhist etc. Many asked Christ. When was it when we did for you Lord? He replied when you did for the least you did it for me. Just be the best you can be, love God with all your heart and soul love your neighbor as yourself

    Comment by Jerry — March 25, 2011 @ 11:36 am

  52. I have thoroughly enjoyed this article because it is a question I have asked myself.Indeed there are those who have done well and it is not highlighted.However there are those who you wonder if they have any conciousness of god.They do things in the name of christianity that are reprhensible.I know god is not like man but……….I wonder.Indeed if we say we are christians or whatever we are we should hold true to that.There is just something in being civil and decent to another human being.That is Christ.

    Comment by christine — April 26, 2011 @ 12:53 am

  53. The fact that Christians feel the need to “disagree” with Gahndi’s Hindu religion is why I no longer consider myself a Christian. As much as I wish it didn’t bother me, I can’t shake the irritation and frustration I feel towards Christians who believe their way is the only way. Do you really think Jesus would say the Buddhists, Hindus and even MUSLIMS were wrong in their beliefs or that they were going to Hell (whatever that is)? Too many Christians are SO mistaken and misled. One day I hope to be able to say this without feeling anger. That is not today. I am putting Ghandi’s quote on my Facebook page as my favorite quote.

    Comment by Loriel — May 5, 2011 @ 5:56 am

  54. You stole the words straight from my mouth! Thank you!I do not consider myself to be a christian because of the direct association with hypocricy I so often encounter. It is insightful to see some one who does take the name also see’s the same flaws as myself. It is bothersome to see how so many people hide behind a God they obviously have never met. I have heard time again (from every christian Ive met) that God has a specific purpose for each of us, and I think this is the biggest flaw with christianity, because God didn’t say “help when its comfortable to you.” God marched with the broken did he not? Why then do so many christians by pass the homeless, and instead have pot lucks to talk about what “great people” they are? If you consider yourself to be a christian you should probably be somewhat christ-like. God is everywhere, and yet more so christians never seem to see him.

    Comment by ash nydam — May 11, 2011 @ 4:14 pm

  55. bible school teachers start to sound like heathens,walking around preaching words without reason, spreading the disease so i will bow to hatred while bleeding from my knees

    Comment by sadworld — May 11, 2011 @ 4:26 pm

  56. Thought provoking article. However, I disagree with your thought that we are not supposed to try and be like Christ. I think that is exactly what he was sent here for to teach us how to treat and live with one another. I also would like to comment on nydams comment about having potluck dinners. I think that God allows us to do both fellowship with one another and help the homeless. Hopefully they are doing both. Jesus ate and drank with his disciples. Two sides to every coin I guess.

    Comment by Lisa — June 15, 2011 @ 4:48 pm

  57. Jesus Christ was not only sent to die for us and save us from sin but to be the Prime example for us to follow. Not to simply admire and learn from.
    As Christians we are meant to strive to be more like Him; nothing less.
    Gandhi’s quote, was speaking of hypocrites.
    Atheists love this quote because sadly, it tends to be true for so called “christians.”

    Therefore if Christians are going to proclaim the name of Christ but not put forth their best efforts and energy into being like the One they claim to love and adore, they should not claim His name at all for they are shaming His name and showing the world they don’t have to be like Christ.
    This isn’t my declaration, but God’s.

    “I know you inside and out, and find little to my liking. You’re not cold, you’re not hot—far better to be either cold or hot! You’re stale. You’re stagnant. You make me want to vomit.”
    Revelation 3:16 (MSG)

    Comment by Child of God — July 30, 2011 @ 8:42 am

  58. Ghandi’s statement is quite curious, “I like your Christ”…but he never says LOVE! I know many would say I am splitting hairs. Oh well….I have read all these replies and find #21 very good and to the point. We ALL fall short of Gods Glory. Unless you are born again, repent and ask Jesus into your life.
    Yes there are good and bad in all religions, all walks of life, from all back grounds. False converts, Catholics, Taoists, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists, Wicca’s and Protestants and the rest.

    Point is, do you consider yourself to be a good person? Most people do. However, most of us differ as to the definition of “good.” The Bible says that God is good, and the Ten Commandments are His standard of goodness. So, we will look at God’s Law . . . With a tender conscience, ask yourself if you have obeyed the following:

    You shall have no other gods before Me. (Have you always loved God above all else?)
    You shall not make yourself an idol. (Have you made a god in your mind that you’re more comfortable with, a god to suit yourself?)
    You shall not take God’s name in vain. (Have you ever used God’s holy Name as a cuss word?)
    Remember the Sabbath Day, to keep it holy.
    Honor your father and mother.
    You shall not murder. (God considers hatred to be as murder).
    You shall not commit adultery. (“Whoever looks upon a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart” Matthew 5:27-28; this also includes sex before marriage).
    You shall not steal. (Have you ever stolen anything? the value of the item is irrelevant).
    You shall not lie. (Have you lied even once? Including answering these questions).
    You shall not covet. (Have you ever jealously desired what belongs to others?)
    The Bible says that God will punish all murderers, rapists, thieves, liars, adulterers, etc. He will even judge our words and thoughts. On Judgment Day, will you be found to be guilty or innocent of breaking His commandments?

    Perhaps you think that God is good, and will therefore overlook your sins. But it is His goodness that will make sure that murderers, rapists, thieves, liars, etc. receive justice. He would be a corrupt Judge if He turned a blind eye to injustice. Have you kept the Commandments?

    The Bible says that the Law is perfect. It commands you to be perfect (Matthew 5:48). Are you perfect (in thought, word, and deed)? Will you make it to Heaven? You may say that you are still good, but God says you’re not (see Psalm 14:2-3). So one of you is lying, and the Scriptures tell us that it is impossible for God to lie. Remember that all liars will be cast into the Lake of Fire (Revelation 21:8). God’s Law demands justice, and the penalty for sinning against Him is death and Hell. Listen carefully if you want to live.

    God Himself made a way where His justice and His goodness could meet. We broke the Law, but He became a man to pay the fine. Jesus suffered and died on the cross to satisfy the Law. God can forgive us and grant us the gift of everlasting life! But you may still think that you can (from now on) keep the Ten Commandments. But isn’t it true that the best of us have lied, stolen, lusted, hated, failed to love God above all else, and failed to love our neighbor as ourselves?

    How can we then, live a “good” life if we have already sinned against God? At best we are reformed liars and thieves . . . but still Lawbreakers. Think of it this way – would you sell one of your eyes for a million dollars? Would you sell both for $50 million? I’m sure you wouldn’t. Your eyes are priceless, yet they are merely the windows of your soul. What then must your life (soul) be worth? With these thoughts in mind, what would be a fair price to pay for everlasting life? It is utterly without price. Yet, if we trust in our own goodness to enter Heaven, we are saying to God, “I should enter Heaven because I have done good – I have earned my way in.”

    Imagine if you wanted to give me a brand new (very expensive) car, but I said, “I can’t take it! I feel embarrassed receiving such a gift . . . here’s 10 cents for it.” I’m sure you would be very insulted by such a pathetic offer of payment. Besides, if I pay for it, it is no longer a gift, it’s a purchase . . . it’s mine by right.

    When we talk of entering Heaven by being good, by trying to keep the Ten Commandments etc., we are tossing God 10 cents of “self-righteousness,” which is a terrible insult to Him, in the light of His sacrifice. The only thing we can do is humble ourselves, repent of our sins, and receive the gift by trusting Jesus Christ alone. Almighty God demonstrated how much He loves you when Jesus suffered for you on the cross. If you want to trust in your own goodness, then you are saying His agonizing death on the cross was in vain. The Bible says, “For by grace are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God.” You cannot earn a gift.

    When Jesus said to “believe” on Him, He was saying we should have faith in Him, in the same way you would trust a parachute to save you when you jump from a plane. You don’t merely believe in the parachute – you put it on. Please don’t “jump” without Jesus. If you die in your sins there is no second chance. God will give you justice, and you will end up in Hell forever. Any troubles you have at present are dwarfed by the trouble you are in with your Creator. His wrath abides upon you (John 3:36). God doesn’t want you to go to Hell. Neither do you want to go there, so confess your sins to God right now, put your trust in Jesus to save you, and you will pass from death to life. Then read the Bible daily and obey what you read. (See John 14:21). Your obedience to God is the proof of your love. Have faith in God, He will never fail you.

    Pray something like this:

    “Dear God, today I turn away from all of my sins (name them). This day I put my trust in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. He is the only way for me to be saved. He is ‘The way, the truth, and the life.’” Please forgive me, change my heart, and grant me Your gift of everlasting life. In Jesus’ name I pray. Amen.”

    Comment by DZHENOU — August 17, 2011 @ 8:06 pm

  59. very sad that people are hurt, slandered, mocked or even killed by others. Its sad that there are those who, because of this would turn against knowing and accepting Christ. I like reply #21, but with all things Ghandi was not a belover nor is he god where as Jesus was God in carnate as man…we can never measure up to this, for we are ll imperfect and with flaws…it is only by grace and mercy and being humble that we can follow the steps of Jesus and by faith only (his death on the cross for all people) pray to be better each day we walk this earth. We can never do anything ourselves (i.e., “works”) to achieve what Christ was speaking of for the greatest of all commandments was to love one another and even love your enemy – as Christ did. For those who have turned away or had bad experiences I know how you feel…sadly enough we must move on and keep asking, seeking and knocking for the door shall be opend to all who ask, seek and knock – Matthew Chapter 7 verse 7-8, “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.”
    I tell you, you wont be dissapointed when you have a personal relationship with Jesus and remember its not a relationship with people because people being flawed and imperfect will let you down each and every time. Keep your eyes looking upward for your dedemption draws near – see Luke Chpater 21-verse 8 which states in the end days -
    “When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

    Comment by peekaboo — August 18, 2011 @ 11:19 am

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  62. What a great writing which cuts to the heart of the true matters of Jesus Christ.

    A so called ‘Christian’ recently wrote on the web that “shy people lack faith”. Lol, I had to laugh because all my life I’ve been a quiet, shy person and all my life I’ve been a dedicated believer in Christ.

    What Ghandi says is completely true. How many times I’ve mentioned at church that I fall short and I am one big sinner like the rest. And how many times everyone just stops and stares at me not knowing what to say. People do need to get real and today I am ashamed to call myself a Christian because of all the apostasy. Instead, I call myself a believer.

    Comment by Justeen — September 21, 2011 @ 7:46 am

  63. I am blown away. You have reduced to words the things I have felt for many years. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with the world. I gives me hope that there are REAL Christians in this world, and that Christ can really live in us today the way I’ve always hoped. I am a recovering hypocrite, and a former prisoner of the burdens of balancing a genuine life with the image of a modern “Christian”. I never had Christ in me. I had law, tradition, and piety… I was the whitewashed tomb, full of dead mens bones. Today I see Christ for the compassion he gifted to the world, and it has changed me as a person, and has for the first time truly made me love God and Man.

    Comment by Josh Kusters — September 29, 2011 @ 7:28 am

  64. really great! Thnk uu…

    Comment by vipin viswanath — October 2, 2011 @ 2:01 am

  65. Thank you for writing this. I shall use it as a link every time someone decides to have a go at my ‘not so perfect’ beliefs in God in all people.

    Love & Peace
    Ama

    Comment by Ama Dine — October 3, 2011 @ 1:56 pm

  66. What exactly do you mean in your first paragraph? “Now, I am not suggesting that we as Christians are expected to try to be just like Jesus. No one can live under such a weight of pressure and guilt. ” What pressure? You aren’t living among devout Jews who think you’re being blasphemous, or under Roman rule. What guilt? Wasn’t Jesus free of sin? What guilt? I am atheist, anti-theist in fact, and yet I am quite able to conduct myself and live a life like Jesus was said to have lived; be kind whenever possible (it’s always possible)..that’s a quote from the Dalai Lama btw, live simply so that others may live (Mother Teresa), love each person as if he were your only child (that would be the Buddha). I really don’t see the problem with Christians emulating their lord.

    Comment by Kathy — October 12, 2011 @ 7:59 am

  67. If you’re feeling guilt and pressure whenever you don’t live up to Jesus’s example, then something is wrong.

    Christ never calls us to those emotions. His one command for us was to love God and others the way that He loved us.

    True, that’s impossible to do 100% of the time and we will fail. But if I truly love, then I love myself as well as my brothers and sisters. I forgive myself, know that Christ has forgiven me (faith), and I keep on with my spiritual journey to love a little more every day.

    Guilt and pressure have no place in a Christian’s heart … unless he is following a very warped version of Christ’s gospel, such as Calvinism.

    So my call as a Christian is not to be perfect, not to “convert ye the nations,” not to judge myself or others, and not to assume that if I were a better, stronger person then I would be perfect: my call is to love the way He loved, which is a process, a journey.

    I love your remark about “to draw others to the perfection of Christ, through our admission of our own imperfection.” Even though it isn’t our primary job to draw others to the perfection of Christ, it is our primary job to love them. If we love them, then they will be drawn to Him. Focusing on the drawing instead of the loving is putting the cart before the horse, if you’ll excuse the cliche.

    And the only way to love authentically is to love through all our imperfections. Christians who consider themselves perfect enough to judge others, never succeed in loving, because they’re blind to their own imperfections … arrogance being one of them.

    If we Christians could stop focusing so much on the easy stuff (judging, proselytizing, positioning ourselves to gain heaven later instead of loving people now) then the world would see Christ in our actions. There wouldn’t be any difference between “Christianity” and “Christians”.

    Comment by Jon M — October 12, 2011 @ 8:33 am

  68. I googled this quote and it brought me to your website. I read the article and I really liked it. The World needs more christians like you. I am not a christian myself(I was one), so after breaking apart from religion I saw all the fake christians around me and it got me so mad that I hated all christians. Even on chruch they’ve been so mean and so arrogant to me. But after I started using my mind and not my emotions I realized that there are still good christians, who truly follow the teachings of Jesus. I understand what Ghandi said cause I’ve lived it, but I also understand that not every christian is the same. Bye, take care :)

    Comment by Lincoln — October 16, 2011 @ 12:34 am

  69. Beautifully said! I am glad that I stumbled upon this post :)God bless

    Comment by Jen — October 17, 2011 @ 2:41 pm

  70. I was looking for this particular quote due to a book I have been reading by Bryan Zahnd called Unconditional the call of Jesus to Radical Forgiveness—that mentioned the quote and must say very true it is the very sad thing in our belief that we go by protesting as it is very much in our nature to do so. But with the unconditional love that Our Lord preaches we are supposed to submissive ..Thank you for your impassioned plea to look a little closer into our own hearts.

    Comment by Veronica — October 19, 2011 @ 5:24 pm

  71. Awww me and a friend were having this debate just now. My friend shared his sentiments about Christians on a facebook status and ten friends deleted him for commenting that Christians need not be so self-righteous to the point of self indulgence and judgment of other faith’s practices. Christians take too much offense when hearing the truth instead of accepting their flaws and working toward a more Christ-like life. Ghandi could have not said it better. This story is beautiful, thanks for sharing.

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  73. While I think the sentiment is beautiful and I think Ghandi was wonderful, he dropped the ball. In my opinion. JESUS did not dislike anyone. I view bein’ a Christian the same as I view myself. There is no need for me to tell anyone I am black. When they see me this is obvious. Bein’ a Christian should be the same. No announcements necessary. It is obvious by their actions. If someone makes a big production outta bein’ a Christian? I always ask? Who are you tryin’ to convince. Me or you? “For every tree is known by his own fruit” Luke 6:44. How do I know JESUS is in my life? When someone speaks nastily to me I find I do not have to respond in a like manner. Without JESUS I would let them have it with both barrels. I know this isn’t me, but JESUS workin’ through me. When I apologize, difficult as it may be. This JESUS workin’ through me. I would never apologize. JESUS helps me do the things I would not normally do. And I love it. A beautiful post nonetheless.

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  75. I am encourage by your post, it absolutely challenges the professors of faith. However, I realized something about Gandhi quotes which is he was looking at the wrong example. He saw the “real Jesus” and instead of committing his life to Him and being the Christian that he so disliked he choose a different path. We all have experienced imitation, hypocrites, look a likes etc; but that is not the main thing that derails us. We know bad church but there are good churches, we know un-loving people because of loving people. I am convinced that a changed life is one of the most powerful proofs that God is real. But the single most power proofs that God is real is the drawing power of God the Spirit. It is He that impacts the heart of man to see God and the brokenness of man. It is not man, Christian, nor disciple but Jesus Christ who is the one that draws man when He is lifted up. The only exception that I have for mankind is that they need Jesus like me. So for the “spiritual man” lets use every opportunity to ministry to the burned, broken, and discouraged. And also, help our weaker brothers as they try to find footing during this Christian journey. I am encourage by this post and those who responded, Shalom!

    Comment by Jerry — December 14, 2011 @ 9:04 am

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  77. Thanks so much, everybody! Jerry, I especially appreciate your words and insight – so true. Blessings and peace!

    Comment by admin — December 17, 2011 @ 9:32 pm

  78. You are so right. I tell folk I am not perfect, or a saint. Nevea said I was. I smoke “medical” marijuana for my “medical” condition. I never tell folk they should do so as well; “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your FATHER which is in Heaven” Matthew 9:16. PRAISE GOD. I pray I am not luke warm. I have a zeal and I talk with my LORD; not as much as I should. People say you only call HIM when you need HIM. That’s what HE’s there for. Not on a convenience thange but as a way of life. However that is between each Believer and GOD. I ain’t the mediator. And neither is anyone else down here. In spite of what they think. “Tree is known by his fruit” Matthew 12:33. Kinda/sorta like “if it looks like a duck…” But it is truly wonderful among those who are in love with the LORD. This simple statement is with the same passion a man would have for his wife. I am married to GOD through HIS WORD. I depend on HIM for everything. HE already sent HIS mediator. My LORD and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. Some folk will find issue and I respect this. But I would like the same respect shown to me. Why not? If I respect you why you cain’t respect me. Is a preconcieved opinion more valid than day to day interactions? For some. It’s as though some folk feel as though “I don’t care how nice you are I still won’t have any respect for you.” If you follow me. The only way we can see each other is through GOD’s eyes. And of course no one has GOD’s optics. But GOD sees us at our lowest and doesn’t turn HIS back . And some folk have even met people like this. Will give you the shirt of their back. But there are some major considerations to be made. Man cannot do anything anything without GOD. In my opinion. I used to think I woke me up. ‘Til I realized it was GOD’s GRACE. Even when I didn’t know HE was there HE was there. Blew my mind. But I Believe GOD knows what I’m talkin’ ’bout. Don’t matter if my Sisters and Brothers in CHRIST don’t get it. Or anyone else other than GOD. Hope I don’t have to re-do this. Life

    Comment by Sistagirl — December 19, 2011 @ 12:10 am

  79. Wow. This is the first website I’ve been on where I didn’t run outta space. That’s wild. But some folk like “Kibbles ‘N Bits.” Drug term. But gee, to go on and on and on. Hmmm, some folk may not like that. Huhn? Now what should be done? Decisions, decisions. But such is life. GOD rewarded King David. And he was responsible for the death of Uriah the Hitite. Not that i equate myself with Kiing David. He’s a man. But He was honestly repentive. And he danced totally uninhibited and showed his butt so to speak. But he was like “Bunk y’all I’m dancin’ in PRAISE of my LORD. Folk dance that way to music. Why can’t I dance unto my LORD? This is a GLORIOUS place to be. I saw a link. Can’t remember if it was to me or viewed elsewhere. That’s how I got here. Love it, love it, love it. PRAISE GOD. Life.

    Comment by Sistagirl — December 19, 2011 @ 12:21 am

  80. Thank you for affirming my perceptions. After being with Christians I can no longer attend a church. It is not that they are not loving…it is they are so hateful. Still have the wounds to show it.

    Comment by Berachah — December 29, 2011 @ 10:02 am

  81. I am a Christian and have been for 35 years. I find that Christians are so very different than what I think Jesus is like. I honestly think if Jesus were to walk the earth today he would feel very uncomfortable in a lot of churchs. I have been hurt by so many christians it is crazy… I have to say I find non-christians have much more grace for mistakes that Christs people who have been saved by grace!

    Comment by PammieK — January 12, 2012 @ 5:53 pm

  82. Hello!!!
    You Know this site it can help people like me to realize that being christian is different from OUR “GOD”..thank you..

    Comment by Chrysyl Enao — January 25, 2012 @ 5:57 pm

  83. This post made me smile, its been a good time since I read something so interesting.

    Comment by weight loss — February 11, 2012 @ 9:40 am

  84. This is great. Thank you for writing this what a revelation.

    Comment by Tom Hearne — February 15, 2012 @ 6:27 pm

  85. In my opinion, the worst offenders are that peculiar group of Christians who go from door to door claiming that they are the only genuine Christians by virtue of their having self-sacrificing love among themselves, but who in reality prey on one another like vicious wolves. I am speaking from personal experience. Yes, I love Christ, but I have no use for this particular sect of Christians.

    Comment by drugstorebohemian — March 2, 2012 @ 12:50 pm

  86. If we were like Jesus we would not need him…..

    Comment by What the heck — March 8, 2012 @ 6:27 pm

  87. When you see the truth finally…. you get mad at others who don’t see it….patience…. patience….

    Comment by What the heck — March 8, 2012 @ 6:29 pm

  88. I have been trying to find a better way of explaining to my new southern friends that I am in fact a Christian….that its what Christ was….not what people have done always in his name. Gandhi captures this in your telling of the story. I try to live a Christian life…and fail miserably as often as I succeed…but I never use the bible as an instrument of hate as so many Christians do. I believe this is what Gandhi meant when he said Christ was so different from Christians.

    Comment by Barry — March 9, 2012 @ 4:42 pm

  89. I was looking up the Ghandi quote & came across this site. So good to hear people sharing their feelings on this topic. sometimes I feel inhibited by a lack of warmth in the ‘nice’ behaviour I meet in people there, because it feels like hypocracy; its unusual for people in my church tio speak openly about their faults or their true feelings. yet Jesus says we must love our enemies, etc. So I find going to church a but of a challenge. I’ve been excluded from a group because I was too outspoken! Very hurtful. But, it is amongst Christians who know they need God’s help keeps me going to Christ for the strength to love the unloveable, and those who have sinned against me. Katy

    Comment by Kate — March 20, 2012 @ 7:52 am

  90. Very interesting post – especially when one browses the comments.

    Which seem to be divided into 2 types – those that express human feeling, and the desire to try live a good life, and the self-reighteous, preachy type who cannot resist the opportunity to expound their knowledge of scripture.

    To the first group: God Bless You. You are discovering, and living the Law of the Christ – which is Love for neighbour.

    To the second group:
    1) God bless you too. But please get a life.

    2) If bible knowledge is important to you, how about starting with Paul’s letter to Corinthians (here’s the reference: 1 Cor. c13 v1 – 9) Take careful note of the key points, especially that people with bible knowledge, but without love, are just empty vessels making a lot of noise.

    3) How about practising your christianity – primarily by showing real love, as Christ explained in the Sermon on the Mount. Actions speak far more convincingly than words.

    If this sounds a bit strong, please remember that God disciplines those whom He loves. So, if you believe God loves you – you would do well to accept the discipline (without succumbing to the desire to shoot the messenger)

    Comment by Frank — March 29, 2012 @ 12:07 am

  91. Ever hear of a man named William Cowper? I hadn’t, until a few days ago. He was a Christian poet and hymn writer of much renoun, a man who encouraged John Newton to also write hymns. Together, they wrote one hymn once a week for the congregation to sing and eventually, put them all together in a hymnal book called Olney Hymns. It’s a Hymnal that was widely published back in 1779. One of the hymns in that book is called Amazing Grace (accredited to John). William had bouts with insanity and often struggled with the thought that he was damned to hell. Boy oh boy, I wonder how that would go over in churches today? Personally speaking, I was recently diagnosed Bi-Polar. After reading Sistagirl’s comment that said, ‘Even when I didn’t know HE was there HE was there.” I then wanted to share a song I wrote down last year. It’s based on 1 John 4:19 We love Him, because he first loved us. I’m venturing a quess that this forum will not allow any formatting so I’ll post the song as sentences … begin song >>> When I was lost, beyond compare, it was You who found me there. You’re my Savior, of You I am in awe. You paid the price, gave it all, crucified, You took the fall – ’cause You loved, with the greatest love of all. How can it be, that You loved me, from the start? I know it’s true, Your love shinned through, from Your heart. From the start, You loved me from Your heart … You give Your peace, and Your love, grace and mercy from above. You’re my Shepard, who meets my every need. You made my heart to understand, the love of Your most wonderous plan. Blessed Jesus, my heart in Your hand. How can it be, that You loved me, from the start? I know it’s true, your love shinned through, from Your heart. From the start, You loved me from Your heart >>> end song. God is good. All glory is His forever and ever. Amen.

    Comment by tomana — April 2, 2012 @ 10:34 pm

  92. I find it quite refreshing to read the words of a Christian who recognizes this. It gives me hope.

    I grew up inside the subjugation and hatred of “Conservative Christianity”, and I have experienced and seen the damage that their un-Jesus-like teachings do on both an individual and personal level (child/wife abuse, gay bashing, etc.), as well as a larger (the shooting and killing spree of Jim David Adkisson at a childrens recital in a liberal church, abortion clinic bombings, etc.)or global (anti-Muslim hate rhetoric) levels. All of these things are in direct opposition to the teachings of Jesus, yet they are either status quo, or the slightly-off-logical followup, of the teachings of Conservative Christianity.

    It gives me hope for this world when I see those Christians who understand what Jesus said speak up.

    Comment by Tony (BearDrummer) — April 4, 2012 @ 2:04 pm

  93. Actually, I do believe that this quote is still being disputed whether it was really said by Ghandi or not. There is no credible source to this quote.
    Just a tip, Please research your quotes before you write so much on it first! It can POSSIBLY be misleading to others

    Comment by Andy — April 6, 2012 @ 12:35 pm

  94. Such a good message.

    Comment by Weel — April 18, 2012 @ 6:03 pm

  95. Thanks, Andy. I double-checked this, and it seems the Gandhi Institue thinks it is legitimate. It’s on their site.http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/1905

    Comment by admin — April 21, 2012 @ 8:20 am

  96. I like you way better than any religious person I’ve ever read. I do not agree with any supernatural spuerstition, but if you’re going to live your life by anyone’s example, your Jesus is an excellent role model. And I absolutely detest the hypocrisy of all the selfish, greedy, evil, sociopathic self-proclaimed “Christians” who are nothing like their Christ. I wonder why they even claim that credo to begin with! So it makes me happy that you see through the BS and are making an effort to embody that which you profess your belief in.

    -An atheist and secular humanist.

    Comment by Titania — April 24, 2012 @ 8:05 pm

  97. And also, Gandhi may not have worshiped Christ, but he was infinitely more of a Christian than all the Christians I personally know. If a heaven existed, a good deity would let Gandhi in way more quickly than any of the evil bastards who “worship” Christ but follow none of his teachings.

    The heaven of a good deity would be for the good, not for the loyal. Loyalty is not inherently good or bad. You can be loyal to an evil overlord just as easily. Even more easily if the overlord is threatening or bribing you. It takes more strength of character to be good than to be loyal. A good god rewards those who have done good, not those who have sung him hymns.

    I wish you all the peace and happiness in the world. May your good deeds spread goodness among all humanity.

    Comment by Titania — April 24, 2012 @ 8:30 pm

  98. I am from India. Gandhi is worshipped here. He’s called the father of our nation. If Gandhi so liked Christ, why did he not follow him? I’ve read a book in which he writes against Christ. I had picked this book from a city library almost 15 years ago but I am sorry I don’t remember the name of the book. Who is our accuser in the Bible who accuses us day and night before the Father? I do agree that most of the people are not living the Bible but those who are not doing the will of the Father are not Christians though they profess themselves to be Christians. The Lord will just say ‘I never knew you’. But I know of many Christians who died for their faith in Christ Jesus and there are many right now as well. Did Gandhi know about it? He died for himself. He was power hungry, self – righteous, took pride in his own humility, sought to create his own name. He even denies that Jesus was the Son of God and the Bible calls such a person as an anti Christ. Need we learn from an anti Christ? Did not the Lord silenced the evil spirits which declared that He was the Son of the Most High? I urge the readers here to read the Bible and understand the heart of the Father through the Holy Spirit and not from some non Christian quotes who have nothing to do with Christ. They are nothing more than the accusers of His children who are our brethren. I repeat who is our brother or sister? The one who keeps the Word of God. Gandhi failed in the first commandment itself – Hear O Israel, the Lord thy God is one God. Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, with all thy mind. We need to have God’s love in us which is explained in John 3:16 to keep the second commandment of the NT. One should not forget that God is also just who hates sin. Please do not dilute the faith of Christ who though loved the sinners hated sin and was crucified for our sins. We need to hate those sins too which made our Lord to be crucified. Therefore asked us to mortify our sinful desires of our flesh. Had Gandhi tried to be a Christian he would have faced the same hurdles as many of our Christian brethren are facing. Also, remember the devil stands against us as an enemy to deceive us all the time because we are God’s children, this was not Gandhi’s problem. The devil was getting all the glory through Gandhi so there was no one who could resist him.

    Comment by Levi — May 13, 2012 @ 3:19 am

  99. However I appreciate the article here. Corporately we have failed Christ in our deeds. I agree with the article but the only thing that came in my way was Gandhi who was a subtle enemy of Christ and had nothing to do with God’s love. I think we do not need to learn from darkness but from the Father of lights. Thank you for writing this article which has helped many readers. I also urge many readers here who complain of being mistreated by Christians to look into your own deeds and compare them with the scriptures. If you are right in doing whatever you are doing then you have a reason to complain if not please love to be corrected by your brethren. I have nothing to say to those who do not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Comment by Levi — May 13, 2012 @ 3:33 am

  100. I appreciate the article in a way that it teaches us more to be doers than just hearers of the law. However, I have a few reservations concerning this article which I would like to share.
    I am from India. Gandhi is worshiped here. He’s called the father of our nation. If Gandhi so liked Christ, why did he not follow Him? 15 years back I read a book which I picked up in a local city library (I don’t remember the name now) which mentioned so much of Gandhi’s hatred towards Christ and Christians. Gandhi was intelligent and a brilliant son of a barrister. He was gaining lot of popularity in his country. He was highly esteemed by men and women of his country and abroad. His philosophical knowledge was eulogized through out. To ask a man of this political stature and with all philosophical knowledge, to deny himself and take up the cross and follow Jesus was too much. Whatever Gandhi did was for his own glory. He plundered the words of Jesus which he knew were so true and used them for his own benefit. Did not the devil do the same in tempting our Lord in the wilderness? Jesus was quick to know the devil’s schemes and rebuked him by His Word. This man, Gandhi even refused to accept that Jesus was the Son of God. What does the Bible teach us about such a person? He that denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist and this antichrist is a deceiver. He calls Jesus as just a mere good man, or a prophet at the most. What happened to my Lord’s suffering and death on the cross? Should I respect a man who just accepts my Lord as just a good man but denies Him that He is the only begotten Son of God, making Him a liar? So why would Gandhi follow an ‘impostor’? Gandhi failed in the first commandment of the NT itself “Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.” He did not believe in the God of Israel nor did he keep the second commandment? Let’s see. “Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself”. What love is it talking about? Shouldn’t we love with God’s love, which is pure and holy? We find it in John 3:16. Gandhi fails again because he does not believe in the begotten Son of God.
    Why am I doing this Gandhi-bashing here?
    Well, because I have a problem when we Christian brethren start learning from a man who was possessed with the spirit of the enemy of Christ. This man was inspired by the evil spirit and we pick his quotes and try to learn from him? What fellowship has righteousness with unrighteousness? We have a wonderful book which contains the Words inspired by the Holy Spirit; pure and holy; purified seven times (Ps 12:6). Is that not enough? Should we still look for darkness to light our lamps? I feel sad my dear brothers and sisters in Christ. Accept it or reject it. I am not trying to be self-righteous but would like to give glory to God instead of to any man and that too an antichrist/ian. Who is our accuser? Who accuses us before God day and night? Is it not satan? Gandhi may be right in saying that the Christians that he saw were not good but how could he forget thousands, if not millions of Christians who died defending their faith in Christ and for the love of God. I know there are many Christians who are my brethren who are suffering for Christ. Should we discredit them because of Gandhi’s statement? Gandhi was not even a Christian to suffer for Christ’s sake. He did not even know the temptations that a Christian comes across. The devil is against God’s children not against his children, like Gandhi so in a way it was very easy for Gandhi to sail. He had a huge following which motivated him.

    There are many professing Christians who do not see the world through the eyes of the Father but will speak what seems right to them. The ones that judge and those that are judged alike, do not understand the meekness of Christ. One part do not fear to ‘throw’ the sinners in hell nor are the other part willing to confess their sins and repent. One should love the rebuke that comes from your brethren. Though no chastisement at present seems joyous but it does give fruit of righteous if you are exercised thereby. Be humble and accept correction that will make you wise. If any man thinks that your brother is sinning, let him go straight to him in love and correct him, if need be, rebuke him but let him not gossip or slander against him. Let everything be done in His holy love. So, my dear brothers and sisters, we are His bride not Gandhi, so let us encourage one another and be ready to receive our Bridegroom, our King, even Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour, Amen.

    I am sorry for the long comment here. God bless you all.

    Comment by Levi — May 15, 2012 @ 1:25 am

  101. Your article was great, and I’m very happy I found it simply by Googling this quote that I’d heard a long time ago and actually use on my website too. The amount of hate, condemnation and hypocrisy that *some* Christians exhibit is physically sickening. Every time I see someone profess a religious calling to dehumanize or picket another human’s life – or death – I know that an incalculable amount of others who witness their actions will never explore Christianity because of that. Yet this is our fight… to remind each other that we have much work to do in our own personal lives before preaching to others about how to live theirs. I founded ALYB for some of the very same sentiments this author and countless others share. There’s a line from a song that says something along the lines of “The greatest single cause of atheism in this world is Christians who profess things with their lips and deny them with their lifestyle. This is what an unbelieving world finds so unbelievable.” Live, love, and laugh. Jesus was the first to stand up for the weak, the persecuted, the poor, the sick and the sinful. Us doing anything less means we follow ourselves – not Christ. For Christians: Inspire through your Actions. Act Like You Believe.

    ~ Aaron

    Comment by Act Like You Believe — May 19, 2012 @ 12:15 pm

  102. OK So…this was written in 2008 but it cannot possibly be more relevant than it is at this moment in time. Between Charles Worley and Sean Harris (note that I REFUSE to refer to them as ‘Rev’ or ‘Minister’)My personal journey to find Christ and subsequently myself, have been derailed…You and I share a common feeling or thought on this matter…Well said!

    Comment by Jefrodesiak — May 24, 2012 @ 8:20 am

  103. Two words sum up the feelings expressed from myself to the author of this article… THANK YOU

    God did indeed speak through you the day you wrote this.

    Comment by Darkstar — June 3, 2012 @ 11:41 am

  104. This is a great article and a wonderful reminder for Christians to remain humble and to admit we are not perfect people, but through the perfect sacrifice of Christ we are made perfect in God’s eyes and fully redeemed of our sins. I love the message you have presented in this article. For me it was a great reminder of how I want others to view me as a Christian.

    Comment by Dan — June 8, 2012 @ 3:32 pm

  105. This is a very nice article – simple, clearly-stated, and uplifting. I also believe that you are absolutely correct. Many people these days are doing Jesus a great disservice.

    Comment by William Albright — July 3, 2012 @ 3:02 pm

  106. I just have one question to you all.

    Gandhi wasn’t a christian..he certainly didn’t worship Jesus.

    on judgement day, would he gain entry into your heaven??

    Comment by Ad — July 16, 2012 @ 9:45 am

  107. This article was eye opening for me!! I would like to thank God for allowing me to find this and believe it or not I actually cried while reading it and realizing how many shortcommings I posses including judging others.

    I sent this to a great friend who consider a brother who is currently out of work and having a difficult time but still keeps God in his heart.

    I just want to say Thank You for this important message!!!

    Comment by Mick — July 24, 2012 @ 11:36 am

  108. Firstly christians mean christ in us, followers of christ, if we follow him , we should practise his teachings, so people who do not practise the teachings or principles of christ cant be called as a christian even tough he s born in a christian family! So to be called a christian u only need to follow and practise christ not bein born in a christian family, so lets please try to understand tat the word christian should not be used wit out knowin its meanin. If someone says he s a christian, he must follow christ, when he does tat its obvious tat he ll be as a light to many! So lets 1st try to live a life where people who see us should call us christians by our deeds.

    Comment by Charles — August 21, 2012 @ 9:45 pm

  109. I think Gandhiji should have understood not to call those people as christians when they were bein the opposite of christ! IF Gandhiji had followed the principles of Christ , he is a Christian

    Comment by Charles — August 21, 2012 @ 9:55 pm

  110. Let’s remember that if any man does not confess that Jesus is God he is an anti-Christ no matter how good a man he was-he is lost. But I do agree that we “Christians” are not doing our job loving one another as ourselves and being Christ’s hands and feet like we should be. Perfect example was that “christian” running away from the thugs when clearly we are supposed to be listening to Christ and doing what He came here to say. Jesus is God and any religion that denys that is anti-Christ and they will not inherit the kingdom of heaven..”no man comes to the Father but by Me,” lets not get mixed emotions about this!

    Comment by Katie — August 22, 2012 @ 9:15 am

  111. I agree 100% with what you said. I once studied the Bible with someone who felt that she couldn’t be a Christian because she wasn’t “Lily White” like we were in the church. No matter how I tried to refute that lily white perception, she didn’t believe it. Well, eventually she did find God and we became roommates in college and she saw daily how un-lily white I am. And somehow rather than discourage her, this encouraged her. I think it is much more impactful for us to humbly admit just how far short we fall of God and Jesus rather than parade our Christianity around like an unattainable prize. In my experience no one wants to be preached at. It works much better when we all learn together, flaws and all…

    Comment by Michelle — September 14, 2012 @ 7:56 am

  112. Though I am not a christian, and have turned away from the christian-judo system because of those who use the name of Jesus and God to spread hate and intolerance, I find some faith in the goodness of people and that real Christians take to heart not just what comes from the bible, but from people such as Gandhi, with an open mind and open heart, and understand the deeper meanings and reasons for such things to be said and brought to the attention of many others in the world. The Teachings of Jesus need not be followed only by Christians, but are within many good people of all religions. I May be more agnostic than following native American shamanism and Norse beliefs, as those are more of what I follow and feel comfortable with, but I have no troubles calling good christians friend and brother, as with anyone of any religion. A good person with an open mind and can see past lines, groups, religion, race, ect, then they are my fellow man, and I would welcome them into my home to break bread. I helped a total stranger the other night buy buying food for her and her family. Were they poor? I don’t know, were they faking it, I don’t know that either, but they said hey were hungry and needed help. I had the means to help and I did so. It was a good feeling to know that I helped someone not go hungry that night. Such is the love for our fellow man that is within all of us, not just some who follow a particular faith.

    Comment by Foxtrack — September 18, 2012 @ 9:24 pm

  113. [...] the father of the Indian independence movement says this, ““I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.” [...]

    Pingback by Jesus: Many Others in His Garden « shieldofflowers — September 25, 2012 @ 2:54 pm

  114. Great word! Stay encouraged and YAH bless u!

    Comment by Emanuel — October 3, 2012 @ 9:00 am

  115. Yes, we (Christians)are deserving candidates of such comment from gentiles. Our churches tries to make believers ‘best’ but our work remains up the good…

    Comment by subash Tamang — October 27, 2012 @ 10:13 pm

  116. Thank you for this post. I grieve so often for the people in my own family and community who have turned their backs on Christ because of the actions they have seen from His followers.

    Comment by Enola — December 7, 2012 @ 9:12 am

  117. Nice post, AND I would suggest a slight revision to OUR slightly revised bumper sticker just to be fair and not so dualistic. There is some wonderful work being done by Christians, even young catholic churches. But the 3rd wave prosperity gospel christianist, like Congredsscritter Michele Bachmann, are an abomination. Embarrassing to ANYONE believers and non.

    “I like your Christ. I do not like (Many of) your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.” Gandhi

    Comment by Bil — December 16, 2012 @ 7:00 am

  118. I love this quote and, unfortunately, find it to be true – to my great dismay. I’ve always said, “Jesus needs better advertisement.” I saw a bumper sticker one day that read: “Jesus – save of from your followers!”. That one also resonated with me. Christianity spouts from the mouths of many but, sadly, does not live in their hearts and souls. I live in a rural community where Christianity reigns supreme – they are the first to judge and point fingers in a self-righteous manner. I find it disheartening and, simultaneously, makes me angry. These so-called “Christians” are not a reflection of Christ the savior, nor do they know him.

    Thank you for your article – it’s exactly how I’ve felt about this subject for a very long time. Now…how do we fix the problem?

    Comment by Sylvie — January 2, 2013 @ 1:01 am

  119. Correction: That second quote should read: “Jesus, please save us from your followers!”

    Comment by Sylvie — January 2, 2013 @ 1:02 am

  120. Was looking for a Gandhi quote I’d heard for a post I was writing. Found that you already wrote the post I was writing! lol. SO AGREE. No I am going to move along to your Bono topics. (fan girl here). I have a post about them too -although I didn’t mention their names.

    Comment by Sondra — January 6, 2013 @ 3:58 am

  121. “No one can live under such a weight of pressure and guilt”? – All i feel from my God is Love. People on the other hand proclaim that living like Him is “too great a weight”. May we all come to know Him better whose burden is easy, and whose yoke is light.

    Comment by Gerald Sadecki — January 8, 2013 @ 8:04 am

  122. I was suggested this web site by my cousin.

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    Comment by Avis — September 7, 2013 @ 10:34 pm

  123. I once heard turning the cheek this way.
    the first strike would be with the back of the hand, an insult. like striking an animal. But when you turn your cheek, the second strike would be with palm of the hand, a strike of a much more personal nature and not as demeaning.

    I’ve read the bible cover to cover many times. Both religions share many values, but too often the most vocal christians use it only as a means, not a spiritual guide.

    An article you might like.
    http://www.bbncommunity.com/2013/09/07/why-are-christians-turning-to-buddhism/

    Comment by Don — September 16, 2013 @ 11:34 pm

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